When Ordinary Figures Step In

In this episode, Brad and Trevor welcome Dr. John Dickson to talk about faithfulness, hospitality, and unsung witnesses of the kingdom. John shares the story of his conversion and his teacher’s role in glorifying God through her faithful witness. In this conversation, we discuss how the kingdom moves when ordinary figures step into the sweeping Story of the Gospel to participate in the glory of God in salvation. Links and Sources: Undeceptions - a podcast from John Dickson John Dickson books: Simply Christianity: Beyond Religion, and A Spectator’s Guide to World Religions Bullies and Saints: An Honest Look at the Good and Evil of Christian History The First Hymn: Resurrecting a song buried for millennia, was released in April 2025. It tracks the world’s oldest Christian hymn with lyrics and musical notation from its discovery in the ruins of an ancient Egyptian city to the middle of a modern rock concert in the heart of America. How to Talk about Jesus (Without Being That Guy): Personal Evangelism in a Skeptical World - Sam Chan Confronting Christianity: 12 Hard Questions for the World's Largest Religion - Rebecca McLaughlin Questions: Who was instrumental in your coming to faith? Who has been important in your spiritual journey? Why? How does our cultural moment war against the idea of living a faithful, unknown, life of obscurity? How do we face this challenge? How do we move past this “the church will do it” mentality into “we will do it, because we are the church"? What is God’s reason for including us in Gospel work? How do we cultivate a love of hiddenness?